Tuesday, July 14, 2009

My Favorite New Line and Why it is Perfect for Short Stackers....

One of my Favorite things about Poker, and especially ShortStacking, is using players preconceived notions against them. This is part of the "changing gears" that you hear about all the time, but you can take it much farther than that. One of the nice things about Shortstacking is that you don't have to take the time to establish a table image, as most players already have a preconceived (and misguided) notion about what type of player you are the moment that you sit down at the Table. My new favorite "value line" is nothing new or groundbreaking, but it takes perfect advantage of those notions and the ego that SS haters attach to the style.

The basis is this: If you flop a big hand that is obvious, start with a bet. Lets say you raise preflop with AQ of hearts and get a caller. The flop comes down 9 6 3, all hearts. You flopped the nuts. Conventional wisdom, and natural urges tell you to slow play and let them catch up. The problem with this is that they are going to be very suspicious of any flop check with a big move later, and unless they have a set or maybe the K of hearts, you might get some money from them, but not much. So since there is nothing to lose, bet it. It looks like a steal and since most players see SS'rs as tight, overly aggressive push-monkeys, they aren't going to buy it. They will call with a lot of single pairs, weak draws and ANY overpair.

Now that you have set the stage and got them involved, check the turn. It almost doesn't matter what the card is. Check it. Now it appears that you took a shot to win the pot but you are a spineless, unimaginative push-monkey and are giving up. This sets the stage for the next step....

Shove the River! By playing this line, it appears that:

You missed the flop and continuation bet the flop to take it down. Their call scared you. The turn didn't help (or you would have shoved, that is what you do, after all) and then, when you smelled weakness, you tried to buy your way out of your bluff by shoving all in (it only costs a little for you to shove, you are a Broke-ass SSer after all and it is the only move you know).

I have found that this is almost universally how they perceive this line.

Imagine their chagrin (and my titty-rubbing joy) when they call and I turn over the nuts to crap all over their A-9 (or whatever crap they tricked themselves into thinking was good enough to beat your "Bluff") and show a play so imaginative that they NEVER saw it coming from a "simple-minded Shortstacker".

There are of course a few exceptions to this line, but it works great when you flop that obvious big hand and want to extract value (it works very well when you flop the trips on a paired board as well). It really tends to throw opponents off balance because now they can't pigeon hole you into a non thinking shove monkey which is where they are comfortable with you being. Play around with it a little but I guarantee that it is a VERY worthy addition to your arsenal.

If you generate any feedback with this line or have variations, please let us know. We love the discussion.

P.S. Congrats to our own Short Stack Hero, Lorin Yelle for buying his first House. He closed last Friday and moved in Yesterday. He now has a Righteous "Man-Cave".

14 comments:

Roenan said...

Tried it three times yesterday after flopping nut flush, nut straight and middle set hand (dry board)all I have to say is,

That's gold Jerry, gold.

Travis "The Dirrty" Rose said...

Yeah, I absolutely LOVE this Line....Glad we could make you some money.....

Roenan said...

Oh and grats on the house.

Anonymous said...

hi!

This have quickly been my favorite blog to follow. Anyway, i wonder if this site in the (near?) future will provide instructions videos for free or for money. It would be very appreciated if it's going to happen.

Thanks for a good blog / site!

Anonymous said...

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Lorin Yelle said...

Mmmmmm Mr. Anonymous...would you think any less of me if I told you I didn't know what prolapse meant?

Lorin Yelle said...

I would be willing to release videos, except that I have no idea how to make them with sound and the learning curve of such things makes them highly difficult to do. It's also serious time away from the tables, so it's not really cost-efficient.

KnockoffNeil said...

If you decided to do vids for your soldiers blog you should check out poker tube. A guy on there called da bear (something like that) did a step by step guide on how to do vids perfectly. But if i where you i wouldnt go down that route of teaching people TOO much. Its bad enough we have card runners and the rest making poker harder to win by the day. Thankfully though there vids tend to be aimed towards hudbots i think, so us guys at cake remain safe...... FOR NOW

Congrats on the house dude

Martin said...

Sorry, but can you explain what Short Stack Soldiers is and how can i get access?

Platonic_ said...

Hi i know we have had some bad blood in the past but i was wondering if i could buy some hand charts and maybe become a short stack soldier as well???

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Lorin Yelle said...

If this is a serious inquiry, then of course- a rakeback pro takes money wherever it falls! You will have to leave some contact info.

anneli said...

hey platonic not seen you at the tables whats your knew nic? your fake blog has died along with crypto and lorins is much better for decent info. you would make a decent short stacker i think. im running at 10.5bb/100 full stacked but was thinking of trying short stacking. do you think i could make more money lorin?

Lorin Yelle said...

Not more than 10bb/100! :)

Lorin Yelle said...

@ Martin


That blog is for students and those who have purchased hand charts to post hand histories for commentary and also some private gems of information.

I have decided to open it up also to confirmed members of Short Stack Hero rakeback. You can join here:

http://rakeback.shortstackhero.com